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Christian faith and patriotism [April 11, 2008 {0828}; An e-Review Florida UMNS Commentary by Bishop Timothy W. Whitaker]

Christian faith and patriotism [April 11, 2008 {0828}; An e-Review Florida UMNS Commentary by Bishop Timothy W. Whitaker]

04-18-2008

A conversation implies two or more people talking about something. How do you have a conversation when one of the participants holds the power of appointing the other participant to outer Mongolia, or when one participant has the space to thoughtfully develop an idea, while the other participant gets a paragraph that must first be approved, and is then assigned to oblivion. To hint that Rev. Wright was being prophetic is to do injustice to the concept. How can someone be prophetic and yet use “ ... bombastic expressions and unsubstantiated theories ... ?” I do not recall biblical prophets speaking that way. To speak out against our country's moral failures is, of course, necessary and biblical. The problem becomes which moral failures. If a Methodist minister damned America for homosexuality, he/she would be assigned to the interior of outer Mongolia. It is ironic that slavery is not forbidden in the Bible, but homosexuality is, and yet slavery can be preached against but the other cannot. I am only using this as an obvious example. So please do not dismiss the point because the example makes you feel uncomfortable. My dilemma is who will choose the issues that are politically correct enough to wax prophetic? I fear that the United Methodist Church has become so politically correct as to not be able to be prophetic, or perhaps to even know what the word really means.

James Renault
First United Methodist Church, Dade City

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Christian faith and patriotism [April 11, 2008 {0828}; An e-Review Florida UMNS Commentary by Bishop Timothy W. Whitaker]

Christian faith and patriotism [April 11, 2008 {0828}; An e-Review Florida UMNS Commentary by Bishop Timothy W. Whitaker]

04-15-2008
 
With all due respect Bishop Whitaker I believe Rev. Wright was not showing Christian citizenship, and certainly not patriotism. My dictionary defines citizenship as: "A person owing LOYALTY (my emphasis) to and entitled by birth or naturalization to the protection of a given state." I would argue that Rev. Wright's comments about America creating 9/11 with its foreign policy are not only patently wrong but disloyal. Furthermore, his statement of God damning America shows no Christian compassion and hardly sounds like an Old Testament prophet telling his nation to repent. Somehow or other he and many in his camp seem to conveniently forget America's sacrifices to ensure freedom, world welfare and national healing. Perhaps we can attribute this to his myopic world view, but those in authority that defend him have no excuse. Incidentally, if the UMC passes the proposal to disinvest its assets from companies doing business with Israel at General Conference, you will see an increase in departures from the Methodist Church and a continued reduction of income. That's a prophesy.

J. Collner
First United Methodist Church, Port St. John

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